June 9, 2025

Trucking & Taxes

Trucking & Taxes
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Barry G.

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Fouler EA brings you tax talk for you right here

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on W four CY Radio and Talk for TV. As

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an enrolled agent and a national leader in tax resolution

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as well as Trucker bookkeeping and tax planning. With over

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thirty years of experience, Barry will break down taxes, bookkeeping,

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tax planning, and tax relief for individuals and businesses just

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like you. So let's have some tax talk for you

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with your hosts.

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Barry G. Foul Or.

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Hey, good morning man. It's a Monday morning. We all

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know it. Things happen, kind of get lost in the

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in the muck of the weekend and trying to get

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everything going this week. It's just the way it is.

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You know. If you got questions, tax questions, bookkeeping questions, hey,

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put them into the radio station here and let us

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get them answered for you. You know, it's it's going

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to be a great morning. You know. We got up

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it was raining already this morning, had some things we've

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got to take care of on the ranch, and we

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get in here and it's pouring cats and dogs. Hey,

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it is what it is. But taxes are still there.

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And one of the biggest questions besides the question my

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producer had last week of Hey, what's your show going

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to be about this week? And we went trucking in taxes.

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You know, it was such a busy week last week.

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We had more and more truckers calling to get their

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bookkeeping start with us so that we could actually help

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them save money on taxes. But the big question came

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back to us is, hey, we've heard all about the

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tax cuts that are expiring at the end of twenty

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twenty five. If this as Trump would put it a big,

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beautiful bill. I still think it's overrated and it still

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needs to be a balanced budget. But hey, only you

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and I have to balance our budgets can't live on

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debt forever. Government evidently figure figures they can live on

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debt and charge our grandkids, great grandkids and probably great

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great grandkids are the ones that are going to have

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to make up what our generation and generation before us

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causes debt to go through through the roof, I mean,

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through the ceiling age you might want to call it.

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You know, they keep raising the debt ceiling. But what's

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going to happen if this big beautiful bill with extending

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the tax cuts doesn't go through? You know it should,

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but you know, there is a lot of Congressmen that

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are now falling on the side of wanting a more

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balanced budget. And then you've got the other side that

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wants to spend freely and spend everything and anything and

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whatever they can spend is great. But what's going to

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happen is is your standard deduction, first thing and foremost

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is going to shrink. I mean, in twenty seventeen, before

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these tax cuts went into effect, your standard deduction was

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about six thousand, three hundred and fifty dollars for single filers,

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twelve thousand, seven hundred for joint filers twenty twenty five.

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These amounts are now fourteen thousand, six hundred for single filers,

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twenty nine thousand, two hundred for married filing joint and

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you know, so you got all those inflationary adjustments and

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everything else, so we don't know exactly where the standard

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deduction would actually fall, probably be around eighty three hundred

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and about sixteen thousand, six hundred for joint five. You know,

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that's just guessing based on you know, increases for inflation

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and other stuff out there. So that's going to have

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a major impact. Now you might be able to itemize

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a lot more that's out there. If you're a W

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two truck driver or even an outside salesperson that doesn't

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get reimbursed for the mileage they've got to do for

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seeing clients, or if you're a W two trucker, your

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perdems that you used to be able to get those

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might come back. But as an owner operator and any

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other small business man, you're going to see the impact

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on me. On the corporate level. One of the biggest

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changes that the Trump tax cuts put in there, the

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corporate rate dropped to twenty one percent, and that's a

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significant drop from thirty five percent. You know, this cut

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to corporate tax is actually permanent. It's not going to

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expire even if a legistration does. So that's a good

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thing because you've got to remember, when a co operation

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pays taxes, they're not paying it out of their coffer.

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They're paying it out of what they collect from you

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and I. So when you're at the store or you're

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buying merchandise that has the tax is embedded into it,

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and therefore you know you're going to pay it. When

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if that rate was to go back up, they're going

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to increase those prices and pass it on to you

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the consumer because they've still got to make a certain

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net income. You know, people don't talk about that. People

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don't talk about what the corporate tax rate is and

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what it does to you and I as the consumer.

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But you know, maybe they really should look at the

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impact to the consumer. See, now, when you're paying the tax,

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you pay your income tax, and then when you go

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in and buy goods or services, you're having to pay

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the income tax that they're going to pay as well.

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The multiple levels of taxation that you just don't feel

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it and don't see it. Do you think it's great

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that we're going to tax somebody like Excellent Mobile or

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whatever company out there to think it's going to come

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out of their net income. It comes out of the

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net income, but only after they collected from you and I.

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Something that really will impact you as an owner operator

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or as a small business person is that pass through

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business income deduction that could go away. So this is

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that qualified business Income Deduction GBI, that twenty percent deduction

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that you get to take, whether you're a pastor company

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or a schedule see. And you know this means that

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you're a sole proprietor with one hundred thousand in business income,

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for example, you can immediately deduct twenty thousand of that

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income and not have to pay tax on it. So

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big savings there that could go away if they do

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not pass or put in to the law making these

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tax cuts permanent. So you know, many Republicans support it,

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making it more likely that it'll be extended thanks to

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you know, Republican dominated Congress. However, if they allowed to

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expire small businesses, you're going to expect a significant boost

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your tax Billy, if if you're happened to be in

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a twenty percent tax bracket, let's say, and you don't

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get to take off this this twenty percent of it

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is tax now. So you know, that's four thousand dollars

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added to your taxes right there because of this one

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beast of the law that if it doesn't get past it,

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gosh you money. You know. One of the things that

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the Trump tax cuts did back in seventeen, uh it

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did put some caps on your state and local taxes.

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It was limited to ten thousand, and it was bad

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news for high income taxpayers and high tax states like California,

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New York, Jersey, many of them aid more than ten

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thousand in state local taxes. Hey, you know, you would

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think Democrats would before this because it would be taxing

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high income people more and it would affect lower class,

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lower income, middle income a lot less. But a lot

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of these guys are from these high tax rates and

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want to get every bit of the taxes take it

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off at the federal level. Things don't always add up

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and doesn't seem the way it should be. Somebody would

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actually explain to people what this cap on state and

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local taxes does? You know? You that say the high

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income people should be taxed more should be for this.

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Those that want to see lower taxes, lower tax rates

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should be against setting this limitation out there because you

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should be able to deduct the taxes you're paying at

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the state and local level to the fullest extent against

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your federal income tax as well. Opinion my soapbox expanded

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child tax credit so you with children. You know, one

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of the Trump provisions that assisted the lower and middle

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income taxpayers was the expansion of the child tax credit

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from one thousand it was up to two thousand. Now.

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This extension is of the elevated tax credit is supported

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by both sides. Some on the Republican side are a

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little opposed to it, but I think everybody is for

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it because it does give money to the back to

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the families with children. So, you know, we could see

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some of these things being passed, but some of these things,

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you know, may take a little bit more to get

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over the hurdle because what they're looking for is more

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and more money coming into the federal government into their coffers. Now,

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they don't care what the impact is to you or

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I or anybody else in America. What they are concerned

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with is how much money they can get coming into

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the coffers to redistribute or spend or overspend whatever it

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may be. Heyfles break We're going to talk about some

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more of the things that will happen if they do

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not pass the prop tax credits tax cuts from twenty seventeen.

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Will be right back after that.

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We have only scratched the surface of today's show. Please

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for you with more tax stock once again, here's your host,

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Barry G.

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Fowler.

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Hey Jerry, thanks for tuning in and asking the question

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about is there a simple way to do truck or bookkey? Absolutely,

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you know the first one is a given. You call

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truck or tax tools, and we'll help take care of you.

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We're gonna go over later in this segment or the

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next one some of the processes that you can do

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as an owner operator for do it yourself, you know, Bookie,

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and we're going to talk about it. Come back to

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that and talk about it. But very good question. And

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I hope you're being safe out there in the road.

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Let us know where you're at. If you're tuning in,

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go ahead and text us and chat with us, or

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we're even calling, let's talk to you and you can

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tell us how your trip's going and where you are

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in the country. We always laugh because we're at the

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truck shows and we're talking to people. We always tell

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them we'll take phone calls from you no matter where

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you're at, if you're in your truck driving, unless you're

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driving through Nebraska or West Texas, because we just know

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you're calling because you're bored and there ain't nothing else

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out there, you know. We always laugh with our truckers

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about it, just because we're having fun. We'll take your

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call anyway, but we will cut you off after a

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little bit of time if you're really really bored out

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there and just want to talk about bookkeeping in taxes,

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which generally turns into family branching, friends, you name it,

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we go through you're friends of ours, So you can

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appreciate that. Hey, some of the other things that do

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change if they do not pass the Trump Tax Credits

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or extend them. The Trump Tax Cut Credits reduced the

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property values on which home owners can deduct their mortgage

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interests from seven hundred and fifty thousand or two seven

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hundred and fifty thousand from a million. If the Trump

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Tax Credits credits expire, then the million dollar limitation would

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be back in there. The Trump Tax Credits raise the

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limit on deductions for charitable contributions to sixty percent of

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adjusted gross income from fifty percent before the legislation passed.

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The fifty percent limit would also be reinstated if Congress

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didn't extend Trump Tax Credits. Now, if you've given that

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much money to charity, you know, heyk God bless you,

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and then hopefully you know it's it's some really good

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charities out there that you're supporting, and it means you're

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making some really good money and maybe your debt free

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and you don't have to worry about it. One of

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the other things that Trump tax credit did is boost

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the state and give tax exemptions, and those could be repealed. Well,

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you know, this affects only small percentage of Americans, but

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it is about you know, passing on family maybe family land,

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maybe family businesses. Maybe you run a small business has

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become worth quite a bit and you're trying to pass

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into your family the gift the estate, those taxes can

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hit you hard. So for twenty twenty four, the estate

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tax exemption is thirteen point six million, but if that

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legislation expired, it would go down to five million. So

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if you've got land, maybe that's been in the family

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for years and it's become worth a lot, and we've

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known a lot of ranchers and family people that have

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had land that passed on generation after generation and now

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be worth maybe six or seven million, Well they're going

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to be paying a high percentage of the other couple

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of million, and a lot of them people can't afford

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to pay those taxes on that inheritance and they have

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to sell their their property or their land, which is

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really really sad. You even see that today house values

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where they've gone and gone up, and it really could

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impact you or the family. So in basically looking back

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at this, if Congress doesn't extend the Trump tax kit,

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Americans are going to be stuck with one of the

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largest tax hikes in history. You the average taxpayer is

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going to see a twenty two percent tax hike. The

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average family afford is going to see at least seventeen

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hundred dollars tax hike. Child tax credit is going to

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be cut in half for forty million family Nearly every

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taxpayer is going to see their guaranteed deductions slashed by

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more than half. Twenty six small twenty six million small

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businesses are going to be settled with a huge tax increase.

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You know, this could be a very big problem for

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here in the United States. It would probably if this

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doesn't pass, be something that could very much hurt the economy.

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It's going to hurt your mind and everybody else's pocketbook

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and affect this country for probably years to come. Granted,

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over a couple of years, everybody will get used to it.

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But who really wants a twenty two percent tax hike?

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Which of the forty million families are willing to give

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up their child tax credits? Small business people, people that

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are trying to run a business to see a huge

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hike in their federal income tax because they lose the

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qualified business deduction. Not you, not me, not any trucker,

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not any owner operate out there. These are the things

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that matter. So you know, hey, if you really want

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to push this through, I say, hey, call your congressman,

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call your senator. Let them know that they got to

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pass and make permanent the Trump tax credits, tax cuts.

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That's what you want to do out there. And we

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were talking about from Jerry the question about bookkeeping and

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making it easy and then do it yourself. You process.

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You know, the question comes down to do truck drivers,

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owner operators need bookkeepers? You know, to put it in

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your circumstances and your preferences. Absolutely. I mean, if you

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love coming home working with numbers and sitting down and

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sitting at a computer and trying to figure out your

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expenses and want to do your your bookkeeping and maybe

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put it in a spreadsheet and then trying to figure

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out how to summarize everything for your tax preprayer at

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the end of the year, and then Fred over do

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I have all the deductions and everything else? Hey, do

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it your self. Bookkeeping might before you do it yourself bookkeeping.

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You know you can keep track of these expenses and income,

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maintenance records, parking receipts, repair records. But if you work

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with a bookkeeper, it can allow you to remain organized,

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help you identify cash flow and cash flow problems, streamline

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your bookkeeping, maximize your tax deductions, and help save you money.

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But in order to keep your books in order as

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an owner operator, keep a logbook, make sure you review

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your finance, keep your business and personal accounts separate, save

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all your receipts, update your books regularly and often, so

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you know, keep a lot book. You know it's to

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help you keep your finances in order. It can be digital,

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it could be physical, whatever you're easier to work with.

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If you keep a digital log book, you know, keep

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it backed up so that you don't don't lose anything.

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And if you you know, hey, if something goes wrong

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on your phone or on your laptop or on your tablet,

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wherever you keep a track of it, you know you

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can lose lose documents something goes wrong, so keep it

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back up, make sure you're tracking everything, all the expenses

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that are there for your business, and then review it.

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You know it doesn't mean just look down there, look

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at the numbers. It means run the numbers. Look at

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your cost per mile, Look at the costs that are

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going out. Are they ordinary and necessary? Are you spending

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money that you shouldn't be spending on things that you

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don't need or aren't required to run your business? Your

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first goal is to make a profit. Second goal is

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to put money away for retirement savings, emergency funds, money

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for repairs or maintenance, future repairs and maintenance, something that

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will help you get through when that inevitable problem happens.

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We always tell people keep your business and personal account separate.

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It's kind of like trying to keep everything in order

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in buckets. You've got a bucket here for your family,

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and you've got a bucket here for your business, and

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only business should be coming out of the business bucket

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and personal comes out of the personal. Not a combined bucket.

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It's separate buckets. And then last, save all your receipts,

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keep them in good order. Hey, you know, we tell

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you this because people have learned a lesson the hard way,

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and we'll talk about some of those lessons that people

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have learned right after this break.

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We have only scratched the surface of today's show. Please

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stand by as Barry Chief Bowler will be right back

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with tax talk for you. As an owner operator, you

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to tax stock for you with more tax stock once again,

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here's your host, Barry G.

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Feller.

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Hi, welcome back. We were talking about buckets not for

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catching rain or water, but in different buckets that you

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use for your business to capture your expenses, in your

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income and where it should go. Now, there's problems when

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you have one bucket that you're using for business and personal. Now, first,

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if you are an LLC or an INK, you're set

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up as a business, a separate entity. You know, having

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one bucket, as most lawyers will tell you, is it

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breaks what they call the corporate veil. Now I'm not

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an attorney, so don't take this as legal advice. I'm

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just an enrolled agent. Never wanted to be an attorney.

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Matter of fact, I don't like most attorneys. But I

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do have friends that are attorneys that we do use

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because they do serve a useful purpose. Unfortunately, you have

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to have one that's a friend somewhere. But you know,

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you've got to have separate buckets out there for that

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corporate veil at the very least. But the other problems

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you run into and you have one bucket and you

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go through an on it, the irs is looking at

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everything in and out of this bucket. So if you've

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got a separate personal bucket and only personal things went

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out of it, easy to track and show them that

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this money was transferred from the business, either in payroll

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or distributions, and went into the personal and the personal

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paid for it. Over Here is the business bucket. Everything

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that went into the business bucket was business. Everything that

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went out expenses and everything else was business, not personal.

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All business, and then you make the transfers for distributions

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and payroll over to the personal go from there. Keeps

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it cleaner. If you ever go through an audit with

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the IRS or state taxing, you can go and show, hey,

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this bucket over here was all business. And then it

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becomes easy to identify the money that went in and

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transferred were distributions from your business or was payroll from

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your business. And I do this whether you're doing a

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schedule to see a ten sixty five an eleven twenty

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s and it definitely an eleven twenty. So whatever tax

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forms you happen to be using, those are the ones

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that we've got to sit down and we've got to

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look at. So we've got to make it make sense.

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Now.

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As an owner operator truck driver, your tax situation is

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unique from other businesses. You know, you do file and

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pay taxes just like any other business owner, but you're

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also eligible for deductions that are specific to you as

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a truck driver. And so if you need more information

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on how to file and pay taxes as an owner

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operator truck driver where you're out a matter of fact,

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just give us a call. We can set you up

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on a very low weekly fee for our owner operators.

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We started twenty five dollars a week. It's really what

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we make it really simple. And you got to do

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is call it eight seven seven nine six six two

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four seven seven again eight seven seven nine sixty six

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two four seven seven. You're not going to talk to

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a salesperson. You're gonna end up talking to one of

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our staff here that you know, our receptionist or me

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a our admins, and we're going to talk about what

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we do and how we can help you. I was

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talking to a trucker just the other day. I know

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quite a few last weeks, so you know where we're

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getting them started. But he goes, I just need to

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know you're gonna make it easy. Yeah, we're gonna make

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it easy. You can either send us an email of

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PDFs your bank statements, your credit card statements using business,

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your settlement statements, your financing agreements, and things like that,

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and we take it and run. As a matter of fact,

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if you give us accountants access to some of the banks,

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we can pull the bank statements ourselves, credit card statements ourselves,

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and we can get them right into our system. And

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where we do things better and faster for you. Settlement statements,

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you can email them and put them in our secure portal.

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Whatever you want to do, we're going to make it

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easy because the last thing you want to do is

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spend time helping us gather all this information when you're

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home with your family, when you're supposed to be spending

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time with you know, a couple of things that you

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need to be doing as an owner operator. One, make

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your estimated tax payment. You know, the IRS does require

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you to make quarterly estimated tax payments based on your

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business profit. Now, being self employed, if you're running a schedule, see,

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you've got to cover the self employment tax, which is

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the fifteen point three. You've got to cover your federal

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income tax and your state income tax. So if you're

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expecting to owe more than one thousand dollars, you have

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to make quarterly estimated tax payments of both self employment

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and income taxes. Now, we calculate these things for you

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being a client of ours, and tell you, hey, these

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are the estimates that you should be making. Now. We'll

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also do a lot of tax planning with you to

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make sure that, hey, we're getting all the deductions we

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run what we call a tax minimizer to make sure

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that there isn't any deductions that you should be taking

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that you have been taking, especially when you're doing bookkeeping

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with us. And the other side of it is is

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we're looking to help you maximize your profit. That includes

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taking every deduction you can, making sure the deductions that

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you aren't taking aren't legit, making sure the things that

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you're paying with after tax dollars that could have been

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pre tax are moved to the right bucket so that

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you're getting the deductions. So sometimes maximizing the deductions saves

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more money in your pocket from taxes. So we've got

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to look at everything that is out there. So you know,

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when we're estimated tax tax payments, we're usually running on

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the safe harbor method, which is calculated by looking at

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your prior years taxes and calculating the right amount and

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then saying, hey, you got it to pay these over

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the next you know, four quarters.

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Now.

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00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:55.680
The other amount it's a little bit harder to do,

468
00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.599
is your actual estimates, but it's it is you you're

469
00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:03.799
not paying more than you should. But you know, a

470
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:06.079
lot of times, you know, when we're trying to do

471
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.640
this you're a little bit hind on getting stuff to us,

472
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.160
so it makes it a little bit more difficult. And

473
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:12.880
we got to look at the ebbs and flows of

474
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:17.680
your business. So if you're new trucker, owner operator, even

475
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:20.839
an independent contractor, you know you're better off using the

476
00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:25.519
actual income method for estimating quarterly taxes and not necessarily

477
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:28.759
using safe harbor. Now, if you've worked a really good job,

478
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:30.640
we've got to look at the safe harbor too, because

479
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:33.839
you may have a lot more taxes that you have

480
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:37.039
to pay in as estimated taxes unless we can make

481
00:28:37.039 --> 00:28:39.920
sure that we get the actual right amount based on

482
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:44.680
your actual expenses. Now, we look at every tax deduction

483
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:47.559
out there that you can have. As an owner operator,

484
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.839
even a small business owner, you got to look at

485
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:53.319
every tax deduction that's there. You know, as an owner

486
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:57.400
operator you may have at least payment on your truck

487
00:28:57.880 --> 00:29:01.480
has to be looked at. Is it right? Is the

488
00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:05.960
lease payment a operating lease or capital lease. Got to

489
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:08.839
make sure you have the right definitions there, making sure

490
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:13.319
you're deducting all your fuel expenses, you're bookkeeping and tax fees,

491
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:24.359
your office supplies, maintenance fees, your uniforms, your truck supplies, licenses, permits, training, communications, insurance.

492
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:29.640
So any expense that you have record of and is

493
00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:33.680
ordinary necessary for your business can be considered tax deductible.

494
00:29:34.039 --> 00:29:39.039
You know, we have an extensive list of items that

495
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:42.240
are tax deductible. Matter of fact, when I speak at

496
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:46.839
Truck to Success oh Ida foundations, Truck and Success seven

497
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:50.519
are mainly for truckers that are looking to move from

498
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.319
maybe a W two driver out to being their own

499
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:57.200
owner operator, their own business owner, or even owner operators

500
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:00.279
that are looking to expand their business and get their

501
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:03.039
own authority and want to know all the rules and

502
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:06.319
regulations all around that. When I'm out there speaking, we

503
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:11.759
go through an extensive list of tax deductions and deductible

504
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.559
expenses for you as an owner operator. Now that list

505
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:20.559
is quite extensive that is out there, and so you know,

506
00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:25.119
we try to make this easy and simple for owner

507
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:29.559
operators that are using us for their bookkeeping and taxes,

508
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.200
and we have to make it as easy as possible

509
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:38.319
for you the owner operator. Now, you as an owner

510
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:41.880
operator and you as a small business owner. Sometimes you're

511
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:47.400
worried about risks of audit. What happens if I take

512
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:51.640
too many deductions? What happens there. We come back after

513
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.559
this break. We're going to talk about reducing the risk

514
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:57.000
of audit on your business. I want to do that

515
00:30:57.079 --> 00:30:57.640
right after this.

516
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:02.839
We have only scratch the surface of today's show. Please

517
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:06.119
stand by as Barry G. Fowler will be right back

518
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:12.160
with tax talk for you. As an owner operator. You

519
00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:14.799
already spend too much time away from your family.

520
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:17.440
Stop spending time doing paperwork.

521
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:21.400
Go to Trucker tax tools dot com a solution filled

522
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:25.599
specifically for truckers. Trucker tax tools dot Com makes your

523
00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:31.799
life run smoothly. Let's get back to tax stock for

524
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:34.720
you with more tax stock once again.

525
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:37.720
Here's your host, Barry G. Fowler.

526
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:43.480
Well, welcome back. Risks. You know you take risks. You

527
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:46.240
get behind the wheel of big eighteen wheeler and you're

528
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:49.799
driving down the road. We take risks every day when

529
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:52.519
you know, you get up in the morning, to the day,

530
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.640
go to bed at night. You know, risks. But you

531
00:31:56.759 --> 00:31:59.720
can reduce one of the risks out there, risk of

532
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.119
it on your business. You know, the I R. S

533
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:06.599
is always tasked with selecting taxpayers for audits. I mean

534
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:12.519
it's enforcement. The threat of audit keeps people honest, sometimes

535
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:16.279
to the extent of not taking deductions that they should

536
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:21.519
be taking. But the IRS selects taxpayers or audits in

537
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:27.559
basically two ways. The first is they suspect dishonesty or

538
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.920
practices that don't adhere to the tax law. The second

539
00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.759
is random selection of tax returns for audit to check

540
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:38.640
tax compliance. Now, if you want to reduce the likelihood

541
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.359
of a tax audit or reply to a random audit,

542
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:46.400
it's important to claim tax deductions and tax credits which

543
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.680
you have documentation in support, but out supporting documents, the

544
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:55.799
IRS may disallow the deductions or credits or and then

545
00:32:55.920 --> 00:33:00.640
charge interest penalties, even fraud penalties. Now using the risk

546
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:06.240
one savior receipts too. Don't take deductions that you don't

547
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.319
have support for. You know, we tell people this all

548
00:33:09.359 --> 00:33:11.880
the time when we've seen it. You didn't do your bookkeeping,

549
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:15.319
you gave around numbers, round numbers is going to be

550
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:19.440
a big target in your business. Using numbers that are

551
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:24.240
disproportionate to what your business is. The IRS computer systems

552
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:30.400
randomly choose people, and sometimes it's based on percentages. I'll

553
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:32.200
give you a good example. And we're going to come

554
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:33.640
back and we're going to talk about pre dams in

555
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:37.000
a minute. But somebody came in. They did one hundred

556
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.119
and fifty thousand dollars. I'm using rough numbers here and

557
00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:45.400
growth striking income. But they claimed that they spent sixty

558
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:50.799
thousand dollars in meals while on the road. Now that's

559
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:55.200
really absorbing it and really doesn't pass the smell test.

560
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:57.799
We had to ask them how many nice were you

561
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:00.960
on the road? You know? And he sits there and

562
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:02.720
looks at us and says, well, you know, I was

563
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:06.119
on the road three hundred days. Okay, you were spending

564
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.800
two hundred dollars a day in food? Well, I had

565
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:10.880
to order out and I had it uber to my

566
00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:13.559
truck every night that I every day that I stopped.

567
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:16.239
That's still quite a bit of money. It does not

568
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:22.440
make any sense. What'ssoever? Well, am on a health kick. Okay,

569
00:34:22.840 --> 00:34:25.519
that still doesn't make any sense. Thank god, we weren't

570
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:29.320
doing the bookkeeping form. We actually documented actually taking per

571
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:31.440
diems for the nights that are on the road instead

572
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:34.960
of taking what he claimed that he could support. But

573
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:38.519
he said he paid cash. You know, life is life,

574
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:40.559
But those are the kind of things that get you

575
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:45.599
into trouble. So keep your receipts, keep your cancel checks,

576
00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:48.960
keep your log books or any other valid proofs of

577
00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:52.719
payment documentation, and keep it for a minimum of three years.

578
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:55.760
Don't take deductions that you don't have support for. Don't

579
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:58.800
take deductions that are out of the norm out there.

580
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:02.280
You know, if you deducting five thousand dollars in office

581
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:05.320
supplies for paper and pencil and stuff like that, and

582
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:09.360
you're a trucker, probably out of the realm. So kind

583
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:12.199
of keep an eye on what those expenses are. One

584
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:17.599
of the expenses that truckers get that is unique to

585
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.280
their industry is per deemed. Now, unfortunately, a W two

586
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:28.119
driver cannot take per diems because it was removed in

587
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:33.679
the Trump tax cuts of twenty seventeen. Unreimbursed business expenses

588
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:36.480
that W two truckers used to be able to take,

589
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:39.519
they can't take them. Their company can pay the per

590
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:43.159
diems that are non taxable, but they can't take this

591
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:46.920
as a tax right off on their taxes. But as

592
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:50.519
an owner operator Trump driver out there, per diems is

593
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:54.559
one of your largest tax deductions you get to take.

594
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:58.920
In the easy terms. Per diem deduction is a tax

595
00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:04.440
deduction to the IRA allows to substantiate ordinary and necessary business,

596
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:09.960
meal and incidental expenses paid or incurred while traveling away

597
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:14.199
from home. You know right now that had been increased

598
00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:18.079
October one, twenty twenty four, to eighty dollars per day

599
00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:21.960
in the continental US. Now you may hear the amount

600
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.760
of the deduction quota is sixty four because the IRS

601
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.880
only allows you to take eighty percent of per diem.

602
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:30.960
So there are changes as the IRS is going through it.

603
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:34.360
A couple of years, the IRS allowed one hundred percent

604
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:40.320
per diem, but it's now eighty percent of that eighty dollars. Now,

605
00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:44.239
the per diem rate last year from January one, twenty

606
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:48.760
twenty four through September thirtieth was sixty nine dollars. So

607
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.719
you have to for twenty twenty four, can you know,

608
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:55.440
calculate your per diems the number of days on the

609
00:36:55.519 --> 00:36:58.239
road from January through the end of September and then

610
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:01.840
October through the end of the year. So you know,

611
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:04.800
if you're an uner operator, you get to claim the

612
00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.119
tax deduction for each day that you're away from your

613
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.199
tax home. And you've got to have a home otherwise,

614
00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:12.599
if you don't have a home that you're maintaining and

615
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:16.360
covering expenses for it, you're now considered a tax turtle.

616
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:19.599
Your home is your truck, and you're not getting these

617
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:23.760
per diems. So you got to calculate the days that

618
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:27.079
you depart and the days you arrive home. And you

619
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:30.719
only get a half day for the day of departure

620
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:33.239
and the day of arrival, and then you get a

621
00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:38.239
full day for everything else in between. So, you know,

622
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:40.280
it's one of those things you got to make sure

623
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:44.000
you're you're calculating and you're going through and doing the

624
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:46.719
correct way. One of the other things that you can

625
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:52.320
take advantage of appreciation Section one seventy nine. Now, you know,

626
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:54.639
we've kind of got to look at this thing and

627
00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:57.880
weigh this thing out because you know, I've heard a

628
00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:00.320
lot of people that are in this tax enter street

629
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:01.920
and they look like a hero tell you to go

630
00:38:01.960 --> 00:38:04.199
buy a new truck because they're going to save you

631
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:06.239
a bunch of money and your taxes. Well, what they're

632
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:09.719
doing is using your depreciation to make them look good.

633
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:12.639
The first thing we tell our truckers and ask them

634
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:15.480
is you know, is there a reason or a purpose.

635
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:17.559
Maybe you have a lot of repairs that you're doing

636
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:20.559
in your truck over and over again. Yes, maybe it's

637
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:22.360
a good time to be in that truck. Maybe you

638
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:26.320
need better gas or fuel knowledge. Maybe a newer truck

639
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:29.000
would provide that. Maybe you're going to be transporting in

640
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:33.039
that gide awful state that has rules about emissions that

641
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:35.639
are above and beyond anybody else, and you've got to

642
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:38.159
have a newer truck to be able to go and

643
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:42.639
haul in that state. These are all good business reasons

644
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:47.599
potentially to get a newer truck and then take depreciation,

645
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:51.039
whether it's Section one seventy nine or bonus depreciation. We

646
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.559
look at that. You know, Section one seventy nine is

647
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:59.320
basically using the first year expensing, meaning that you get

648
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:03.119
to deduct long term asset here currently now. As one

649
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:05.519
of our other clients, we advised them against using Section

650
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:09.440
one seventy nine because they were looking to shut down

651
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:12.679
their business and he was going to become a W

652
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:15.639
two driver. They said, no, we want the tax savings today.

653
00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:18.320
Got them their tax savings. In the next year, they

654
00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:22.880
sold their truck and subject to ordinary income, capital gains

655
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:26.480
on all of that and owed a lot of taxes.

656
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:31.119
Not extremely happy, but they didn't listen when we were

657
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:34.639
telling them what was going to happen. And now they

658
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.239
owe taxes that are out there, so you've got to

659
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:41.079
look at it. You know, there are thresholds, there are maximums.

660
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:43.360
Most of the trucking companies we know are not going

661
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:45.519
to hit them, and most of them aren't going to

662
00:39:45.559 --> 00:39:49.599
be phased with the phase out out there. Now. If

663
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:52.880
you happen to be running five, six, ten, twenty trucks, yes,

664
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.039
your business is probably going to have a lot of

665
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:58.719
gross income, a lot of net income, and you know,

666
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:03.079
maybe you might hit those thresholds. The one good thing

667
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:05.519
about section one seventy nine, you don't have to claim

668
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:08.079
the full amount. It's up to you decide how much

669
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:12.639
you're going to deduct under that section one seventy nine.

670
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:17.159
And but whatever amount you don't claim must be depreciated

671
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:20.920
over the useful life of the asset. So the main

672
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:23.480
advantage of one seventy nine unless you take a higher

673
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:29.519
deduction immediately. By receiving higher depreciation deduction deduction today, you

674
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:34.239
will get to reduce your current tax bill. It's especially

675
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:36.559
helpful for a new business that may be having cash

676
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:40.960
flow problems. Some of the disadvantages of this your income

677
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:43.599
increases to move you to a higher tax rate by

678
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:47.199
accelerating your business deductions, you'll have fewer options in the

679
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:50.599
future to reduce your taxes when your business might be

680
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:53.920
in a higher tax bracket. You also have a higher

681
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:58.679
risk of recapture of that depreciation when you sell that

682
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:02.679
long term asset. Things you've got to consider and look at.

683
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:07.079
Proper planning is what's going to make and help you

684
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:12.800
make the best possible decision on your appreciation. You know,

685
00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:15.880
we enjoy talking about taxes. What do you want to hear?

686
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:18.880
What questions do you have? Hey, if you go over

687
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.280
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688
00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:23.559
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689
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:27.559
support at Trucker tax tools dot com. Send in your questions.

690
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.559
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691
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:34.960
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692
00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:38.400
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693
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695
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698
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699
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700
00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.440
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701
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702
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