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Barry G.
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Fouler EA brings you tax talk for you right here
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on W four CY Radio and talk for TV. As
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an enrolled agent and a national leader in tax resolution
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as well as Trucker bookkeeping and tax planning. With over
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thirty years of experience, Barry will break down taxes, bookkeeping,
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tax planning, and tax relief for individuals and businesses just
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like you. So let's have some tax talk for you
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with your hosts.
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Barry G. Thoul Hey, welcome, great Monday morning. I hope
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everybody had a good weekend. Get something done around the
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house or the ranch or the farm, or whatever you
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do with your weekends. Family time boating whatever it may be.
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We got so much rain between Thursday, Friday, Saturday or
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at the ranch that we might as well have been voating.
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Pond was new pond we had. We've been waiting for
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a lot of water while we got excess for water.
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It was overflowing, so we almost needed the canoe to
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get through the pastures and everything out there. But in
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the chickens we had, as I was telling our producer here,
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they became fish over the weekend having to swim through
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ponding water. So I spent most of Sunday morning filling
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in the holes and replenishing the chicken runs and get
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the chickens out of the water before they actually had
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to start learning to swim. So busy weekend, but you
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know we get to come back here and we get
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to talk about taxes, and you know today's episode. You know, hey,
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we're talking about irs installment agreements. You know, you can
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pay your tax debt, and if you can afford to
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pay your tax debt in full today, man, I recommend
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you just pay it. Get rid of those penalties and
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interest that maybe a crew in on. You get it done.
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Don't go into an installment agreement, just pay the threaded
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irs off. I mean, when you own money, they're going
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to put liens on your property, liens on any equipment
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you may have. If you're owing money for your business,
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you know they're going to protect their interest in everything
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that you own. And when that becomes the case, it's
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kind of like putting handcuffs on you. I mean, you
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can't sell your house, you can't sell your business, you
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can any assets because what they have that lean on you.
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And if it becomes really really bad, just like last
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week's episode we were talking about levies and what they
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can take with the i r S feels the need
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to protect, and that need to protect is putting those
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lians on or putting those levees on. So you know,
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if you do get it into an installment agreement and
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all of a sudden you fail and you have money available,
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they're coming. You know, the meanest vicious election agency in
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the world is who you're dealing with. You know, So
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payment plans are are way out now. You know, there
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are different types of payment plans and different things that
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the i r S allows you to do when you
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establish a payment plan, but you know the first requirement
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they have is for you to be in compliance, and
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compliance to you and me and compliance to the i
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R S are two probably totally different things. So what
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does compliance mean? We got to start from their compliance
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first means all tax returns are filed. So if you're
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missing one from let's say twenty four or twenty twenty
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or twenty nineteen, you know they're going to say, hey,
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you need to file these tax returns before we'll offer
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you a payment plan. Now, if you haven't filed, and
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maybe the IRS did a SFR substitute for a return,
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so if you haven't accepted it, they consider it to
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be not filed, but yet they're trying to collect tax
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on it. So you need to get that return filed,
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and filing that return may correct excess tax the IRS
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is trying to collect. So that's why you know, at
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Taxation Solutions we go through and do a complete tax
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analysis to determine why the IRS is saying you owe
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this money, you know, and why the or maybe returns
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that are not filed. Maybe you've mailed it in and
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you've you've filed it, but they haven't processed it yet.
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We've got to get it processed. We got to get
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that complete, so you know, people have to mail in
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returns if a return is older than three years. So
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right now we can electronically file twenty fives, twenty fours,
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and twenty threes, but anything before that has to be
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mailed in and then it takes the IRS lots of
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time the process that manual return. I know, the question
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goes and says all the time, why can't the IRS
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take these older returns electronically? They were accepting the way
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back then for whatever reason, their system only takes the
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three years to accident. Then we just kind of grant
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and buried and then wait for them to process. Now,
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what else does compliance mean? Well, the other part of
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compliance is that you've made your estimated tax payment. So
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if you have to pay or required to pay estimated
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tax payments in then you've got to be up to
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date for your estimated tax payments. Now the logical question
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is is how do you determine estimated tax payments? Well,
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the best way in the way the IRS is going
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to look at it first and foremost is based on
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your twenty twenty five tax return. How much money did
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you have in tax for twenty twenty five unless your
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normal withholding, so if you have w two pay you
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would subtract it from your normal withholding from your taxes
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that are due. They would also subtract any ongoing credits
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you may have for child tax credits or something like
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that that you may have out there, and so you
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can come down and say, hey, this is how much
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money that I would typically owe for the year, divided
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by four, and then that would be your quarterly estimated
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tax payments now are made April fifteenth. If you miss
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that one, you got to make it up June fifteenth.
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So we're coming up seven days away from when the
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next estimated tax payment is due. So you got to
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make that estimated tax payment. Then you're considered current on
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your estimated tax payment. Now, I know you're curious when's
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the next two quarterly payments due, because the IRS had
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those weird quarter. Its only been two months since the
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first one was due. You know, the next one is
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going to be due September fifteenth, and then the last
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one's due January fifth, So you do get to three
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to three after that, but it goes you know, April fifteenth,
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two months later. June fifteenth is the next one, so
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you're coming up on that. Now, let's say you didn't
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file your twenty twenty five tax return yet, and you
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didn't file on extension, you're not in compliance, all right,
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So you got to get that twenty twenty five tax return. Wow.
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And if you're going to did file the extension and
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you're going to file in October and you have a
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going to have a balance due, you better be ready
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to pay that balance come October fifteenth, because if you're
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not an instonement agreement you do today will be kicked
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out on October fifteenth. You don't want that to happen either.
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So you know, we talk about you know, hey, being
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in compliance with the IRS. Under the IRS's rules. Now,
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if you had a downturn in business, the IRS will
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accept proof that your business is less this year versus prior.
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Or if your businesses goes in cycles and maybe the
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first quarter or two you're really low, but yet you're
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really big in the final quarter or the final half
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of the year, and that's the way your business usually goes.
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We can do estimates based on actuals, but we've got
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to have financial statements to prove where your business is
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at today and how it's performed to be able to
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get the estimated tax payments that are due. Hey, Becky,
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great question. What are these quarterly taxes for? What are
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we paying? Is this business or personal? This is all personal.
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This is estimated tax payments for twenty twenty six, so
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that when you file your twenty twenty six return in
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April of next year, you have already prepaid all the taxes. Now,
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this is mainly for people that are operating businesses, or
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maybe you have a lot of investment income and you've
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got to pay estimated taxes because you're usually earning additional
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money or your withholding is never enough to cover the
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taxes that are due and you need to make some
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estimate tax payments every quarter from there. But a lot
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of this comes down as people that are running small
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businesses or running businesses, whether it's on Schedule C or
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whether it's a K one coming over. This is all
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on the personal side. The only time you would pay
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estimated taxes for the business is if you are running
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a C corp and you file eleven twenty and then
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the business would owe tax and it would have requirement
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for some estimated tax payments as well. Hey, great question,
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and we love the questions that are coming in. Hey,
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Now that we've kind of covered compliance and what you
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got to do to set up installment agreement as far
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as compliance goes. We're going to take a short break
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and when we come back, we're going to start talking
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about the different types of installment agreements that you can
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do that right after this, we.
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Have only scratched the surface of today's show. Please stand
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with more tax stock once again. Here's your host, Barry g.
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Feler. Welcome back. You know we're talking about installment agreements
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being in compliance and one of the things that we've
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been talking about in the first segment was being in
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compliance with estimated tax payments if you're required to make them.
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And again, you know, estimated tax payments are mostly for
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people that are running businesses or have a lot of
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investment income that they're not having withholding that would cover
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their taxes due. When we were talking about this, you know,
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one of the questions we had from Becky was, are these,
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you know, for business or personal? And you know, when
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we're looking at estimated tax payments, these are all mostly
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on the personal side, unless you're running that se court. Now,
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if you are a W two employee, typically you're not
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going to be required to have estimated tax payments, unless
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maybe you have an outside business that you're running, maybe
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you just running a little side business and you have
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income that you're going to pay taxes on, you may
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have requirement. Typically you're withholding on your W two paycheck
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should typically be enough to cover the taxes that you're
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going to pay, if not, sometimes a little bit excess. However,
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it depends on how you filled out your W four
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and if you're married, how they filled out their W four.
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Sometimes we've seen where there's not enough withholding on your
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W two paycheck. Because of the way those W fours
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are filled out, they can get somewhat complicated when you're
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filling out the form. And when they do get complicated
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like that, then typically you see mistakes where you don't
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have enough withholdings to cover and you should be making
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estimated tax payments or what you typically do. When you
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see that this isn't enough, you go back to your
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employer adjust your W two the W four withholdings to
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have them withhold a little bit more money so that
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you don't have taxes do come in April fifteenth. But
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the one thing I always recommend is that you know,
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get a good tax for prayer who's going to go
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through some of this stuff with you, and you know,
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make sure that you've got your basis covered and you're
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not having more withholding than the taxes that will probably do.
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Last thing anybody really wants to do is pay the
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government in more money than they're going to owe. You
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should be keeping that money and earning the interest income
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off of that. Although interest is relatively low, but if
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you put in a nice investment account and even do
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a money market you can earn you know, three percent
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or three point five percent one of those investment accounts
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and money market accounts, and that's better than not earning
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anything at all with its sitting at the irs, So
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you might want to do that. Oh, another question came
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in from Jansen. Hey appreciate the questions. When do people
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running a business have to start with the taxes quarters?
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And does this cover side hustle? So yes, you would