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Barry g.
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Ea brings you tax Talk for you right here on
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enrolled agent and a national leader in tax resolution as
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well as Trucker bookkeeping and tax planning. With over thirty
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years of experience, Barry will break down taxes, bookkeeping, tax planning,
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and tax relief for individuals and businesses just like you.
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So let's have some tax talk for you with your hosts.
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Barry g.
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Foul Learn, Good morning, and welcome to tax Talk for
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you man. We enjoy these Monday mornings with you getting
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to talk about, you know, taxes and bookkeeping and tax
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resolution and solving your I R s problems with taxation
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solutions dot net tax Relief. You know, this morning we're
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gonna be talking about you know, basically I r S updates.
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What's happening in the i R S, what are they
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concerned with, what are they looking at, and how can
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we help you navigate the problems within the I R S.
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And you know, one of the latest updates. And we've
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been seeing this because we've seen people that have come
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to us with these nasty I r S letters about
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the employee retention credits and you know, there's been a
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lot of problems with the ERC employee retention credits that
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are out there. The IRS pause giving money out for
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it because of incorrect claims that are out there. There's
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a lot of companies that are professing to get to
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a business, you know, tens of thousands of dollars back.
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And you know, we've seen it. We've had a couple
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of clients that came to us and said, hey, can
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you process this ERC? And we said, well, you know,
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we can do an analysis first to see whether you qualify,
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and if you qualify, then yes we could do this.
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And basically we ran the compliance check and you know,
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one of them was a daycare center, and we were
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going through and doing analysis. The daycare center actually never
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slowed it down, did not have a reduction in revenues
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during COVID or you know, all the areas you had
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to show to be able to get the ERC And
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they doubted us and went to one of these promoters
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of the business to get the ercs and they got
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any r C. Well, now they've got the nasty grams
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from the irs, those letters that said hey, this was
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incorrect and you owe us this money. And another one
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was a trucking company, and in trucking, trucking seemed to
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be that industry that picked up during this time, and
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many trucking companies were very, very successful own our operators
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out there even in transporting goods and increasing revenues and everything.
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And these guys did not in any way, shape or
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form qualify for the employee retention credit. But yet the
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promoters said they would, and so they went to the
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promoters and now they owe over one hundred thousand dollars
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back from this employer retention credits. So you know, if
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you filed for the employee retention credits, you know, one
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you need to make sure that everything was done correctly
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and that you truly qualified. You know, the I r
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S has got compliance teams out there, and you know
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they're looking through and checking everything to make sure that
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you as a business, you know, qualified and you know
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some of the things that they were looking at. If
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you were in an essential business during the pandemic that
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could fully operate and didn't have a decline in gross receipts,
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you shouldn't have filed for the ERC. You know, promoters
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out there have commits many businesses to claim the RC
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went in many instances, you don't qualify, You weren't eligible,
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your operations were weren't fully or partially shut down or
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suspect ended by qualifying government order. You know, so you
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know you've got to really pay attention and ask the questions.
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You know, sometimes these people are out there promoting these
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things knowing full well they're going to get their fee,
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which is generally in some of these instances, they were
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taking twenty percent of the ERC credits. So where they're
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getting you thirty forty one hundred thousand dollars back, they
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were getting that twenty thousand dollars up front from you,
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and now guess what, they're no longer in business, you
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can't find them. There's nobody out there to hold accountable
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for it. And when you signed everything, you signed it
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testifying that under penalties of perjury, this is correct. So
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you know, it's a real problem out there. You know
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a lot of times you had family members who were
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wage earners and they use them as qualified wages and
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that should not have been Those were filed incorrectly. You know,
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like if your spouse or your child, or a descendant
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of a child, brother, sister, step brother, step sister, father, mother,
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you know, these nephews, these are all family members and
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you know they could not be included in those wages
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were you know, the wages were already used for the
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paycheck protection loan forgiveness, and you know you've gotten that
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as well. Then you know you didn't qualify, so you know,
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really got to sit down and look, hey this work.
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You know, we've also seen where these guys have claimed
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too many quarters and basically they urged the employer to
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claim the ERC for all quarters that the credit was available, thinking, hey,
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whether you qualify or not, they're going to give you
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this money and we don't care. They're not going to
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come back after you. They are you know, some of
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these promoters were out there saying government orders and government
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orders didn't apply to you or didn't qualify, so they
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claimed that the ERC. If any government order was in
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place in their area, even if their operations weren't affected,
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or they choose to suspend their business operations voluntarily, then
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that ERC claim would not be correct because it wasn't
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under government orders and the government order had to be
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due to the COVID nineteen pandemic. So you know, you
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got to really think what is the correct thing for
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you and your business in claiming this ERC credit. You know,
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I couldn't reiterate enough the problems with the ERC credits
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and the problems with businesses claiming them when they didn't qualify.
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And yes, now the IRS is coming back and saying, hey,
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you've claimed too much, you shouldn't have claimed, you don't qualify,
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whatever the case may be. And guess who's left holding
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the bag? You are now. So some of these people
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didn't go back and amend the tax returns that require
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to be amended because you got this ERC credit. And
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now maybe you did go back and pay the taxes
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that were owed for that year to twenty twenty one,
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or twenty twenty when you took this credit and you
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paid those taxes. Now the IRS is coming back and
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saying no, you should don't qualify, and you've got to
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repay the tax that you got the refund from, and
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then you're going to have to go back probably and
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amend that tax return back to the way it was
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because you shouldn't have gotten the credit. Man, you talk
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about triple edged sword. You know, you seem to be
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getting it coming and going in sideways, and where that
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needed to stop was not making the decision to do
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this ERC credit. But if you need help on this,
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we're working with clients right now to help solve their
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tax problem from aiming fraudulently this e r C credit. Now,
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there's ways to beat the i r S and stop
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the i r S such as a withdrawal of the
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Employee Retention Credit claim and doing that could help solve
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the fraudulent claim responsibility that you would be in. So,
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if you need help for the e er C, you know,
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don't let the i r S walk all over you
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with this. You're going to have to do everything you
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can to stop the i r S now, So give
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us a call. It eight eight eight nine three zero
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zero one zero one six Taxation Solutions dot net to
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see how we can help you stop the I R
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s or withdraw your employee retention claims. Let's get these
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things done before you have that problem with the IRS.
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You know, one of the big things we heard too
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about these promoters, they continue to talk that there was
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nothing to lose. You know, they urge you to file
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this claim because you have nothing to lose. Businesses that
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incorrectly the ERC risks at their expense. They're the employer's expense,
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not the promoter's expense. The repayment requirements, penalties, interests addit,
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potential expenses of hiring someone to resolve the incorrect claim
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and amend the previous readers returns and now re amend them.
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And if you willfully filed a fraudulent ERC claim or
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you assisted or conspired in such a conduct conduct, withdrawing
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a fraudulent claim will not exempt you from potential criminal
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investigation and prosecution. Hey, we're going to take a short
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break here. When we come back, we're going to talk
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about how to withdraw an employee retention claim ERC claim.
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Right after this we have only scratched the surface of
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today's show. Please stand by as Barry G. Fowler will
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talk for you with war tax Talk once again.
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Here's your host, Barry G. Ballom.
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Hey, welcome back. You know, talking about the er C
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employee retention claims that small businesses have filed and now
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getting astagrams over and how to stop the i R
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s at least a little bit by withdrawing that employee
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retention claim if it hasn't been paid, or even if
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it has been paid. But first we got a question
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here and We love questions, So if you got questions,
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sent them into the studio and we'll get those questions
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answered for you as well. Rick here was asking if
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both my wife and I are W two employees and
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both of us claim the dependence on the W two, Well,
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what you're doing is actually filling out your W four
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with your employer. Go down that form and answer the
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questions out there. Now, I probably would not put the
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dependence on both W fours. One of the things that
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I would work with is if you've got a tax prepare,
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work with them that have prepared your return to make
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sure that you've got the right with holdings for your
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W two's. Now, the right withholdings is not where you're
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going to get a large refund. Next year when you
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file your taxes, you should be at the break even
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point with the irs. There's no sense in giving the
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irs more money to sit and hold and not pay
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you interest on and you can keep that extra money
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instead of paying the irs. You know, fifteen hundred or
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two thousand dollars extra, You could have that money in
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your account, earning interest and saving that money, and you
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would have more than the two thousand or the refund
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that you would see coming back if you put that
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money away, and that should be your goal is always
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trying to find a way to save money, build your
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nest egg for your future, or saving money. You know,
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if you're going to use that money for something like
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a trip or something, you set that aside in your
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own savings account. Don't touch it, and then you've got
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extra money on the trip because you've been earning interest
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on it every single month. So you know, that's my
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advice is work with your tax repairer. Make sure that
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W four gets filled out correctly for both your your
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wife and your rick, and then if you're at break
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even instead of getting a large refund, you can put
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that extra money away. Withdrawal of ERC claims and that's
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what we were talking about, is how do you go
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through and withdraw that claim? So you filed it incorrectly,
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You've you were convinced to file this and you want
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to withdraw it. First, work with with your your tax consultants.
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Talk to them, make sure that if this claim was
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filed fraudulently because some promoter talked you into it, get
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with your prepare and get them to help you withdraw
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the employee Retention credit and they should be able to
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check out whether you did qualify or not. And you know,
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if they determined that you didn't qualify, or you determine
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based on the certain rules that you don't qualify, then
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you can go through the withdrawal process. And this is
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if it hasn't been paid yet, so or if you
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received a check but you didn't cash it or deposit it,
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you can then withdraw your claim. You're going to ask
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the IRS not to process your entire adjusted Employeed Deployment
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Tax return, which is the nine forty one x ninety
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three X or nine forty four X for the period
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that you claim. The ERC claim that are withdrawn will
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be treated as if they were never filed, and the