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Barry G.
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Fol Ea brings you tax talk for you right here
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on W four CY Radio and talk for TV. As
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an enrolled agent and a national leader in tax resolution
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as well as Trucker bookkeeping.
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And tax planning.
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With over thirty years of experience, Barry will break down taxes, bookkeeping,
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tax planning, and tax relief for individuals and businesses just
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like you. So let's have some tax talk for you
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with your hosts.
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Barry G.
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Foul Hey, good morning the USA. It's great to be here.
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I enjoy these these shows and talking and bringing information
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to people, our clients, maybe future clients, and people that
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are looking for help, whether it's for the tax problems, bookkeeping, taxes,
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you name it, and you know today's topic. Finding the
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right help, finding the right tax prepared finding the right
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bookkeeping service for your business, for your industry. You know,
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and it gets complicated and it's really hard. How do
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you know that the people that I'm going to hire
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today to do my taxes is the right company, right person?
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You know, we fret when we get out there and
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we hire somebody where there's an investment advisor sometimes, you know,
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like even us going out and getting new furniture this
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weekend for the living room, was hey, are we getting
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the best price? Are we getting the right deal? Are
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we getting the right furniture? But that has less complications
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than hiring the wrong tax prepairer. I mean, can you imagine, Okay, fine,
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the furniture breaks, it's under warranty. But if you didn't
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hire the right tax prepairer and all of a sudden
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now they created you tax problems, well, it doesn't always
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necessarily go back to them and be their problem, because
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you may not be able to find them because you
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hired the wrong person, or they weren't with the right
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credentials and you hired the wrong person. At least if
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you bought the wrong furniture and maybe it's under warranty
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and you can get it fixed. You know, maybe it
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fails and you can't get it fixed. You know, you're
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only out what you're paid for it. But when you
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have a tax problem because of your prepare, you could
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be out thousands, if not tens of thousands, if not
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hundreds of thousands, you know, depending on what the preparer did.
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So you know, take the time vet the preparers, check
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the preparers qualifications. You know, all paid tax return preparers
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are required to have a Prepare Tax Identification Number and in
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addition making sure they have a PTI in asked to
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prepare if they belong to professional organizations and do they
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do continuing education, you know, the IRS, you know talks
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a lot about the different qualifications and the different people
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that are qualified to prepare tax returns. And it starts,
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you know, with enrolled agents. Enrolled agents were licensed by
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the US Department of Treasury. Enrolled agents are subject to
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suitability check and must pass a three part special Enrollment Exam,
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which is comprehensive exam that requires an enrolled agent to
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demonstrate proficiency in federal tax planning, both for individuals, businesses,
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tax return preparation representation, and then they have to do
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continuing education seventy two hours over the three years. It's
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a it's a great program. So if you're looking for
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a prepare, enrolled agent is a great place to start
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because they specialize in tax and so you'll see, like
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me barring G. Fowl or e A, I see enrolled
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agent designation out there.
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You know.
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Next option is certified Public Accountants. You know, these aren't
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actually licensed by state boards of accountancy and it's in
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each of the state's district of Columbia US territories. They've
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passed the uniform CPA exam. Now this isn't just tax
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I mean, it's our audit tax loss stuff. They've had
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to complete study and accounting at a college or university
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here in Texas. They've got to actually go and get
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their master's degree, and then.
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They have to have.
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Certain experience requirements that is established by their respective board
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in their state. They also must comply with ethical requirements
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and complete specified levels of continuing education in order to
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maintain their CPA license. But they're offering a full range
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of services and it's not all of them specialize in
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tax prepper or tax planning as opposed to enrolled agents attorneys.
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They are licensed by state courts, including the District of
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Columbia and then maintained by their state bars. Generally, they
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have earned degree in law past the bar exam attorney.
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Attorneys generally will also have ongoing continue education and professional
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character standards, ethical standards, and again, attorneys are going to
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offer a wide range of services. Some do specialize in
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tax so you can go through them as well. Then
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you have people that have just a preparer's license. They're
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actually Annual Filing Season Program participants, meaning that it's a
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voluntary program that recognizes the efforts of return preparers who
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are generally not attorneys, CPAs or enrolled agents, that was
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just designated to encourage education in filing season readiness. I
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r s will issue annual Filing Filing Season Program record
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of completion to return preparers who obtain a certain number
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of continued education hours in preparation for the specific tax year.
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So you know, those are the people that are going
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to be filing returns and filing returns Legally, all return preparers,
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no matter what level they're in, have to have a
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PTI in tax return preparers. You get that prepare tax
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identification number. You don't have to have professional credentials to
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get this. You don't have to participate in the annual
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filing season program. Uh, so you can get that number
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and prepare returns. We do have people that are here
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that are PTI in holders. Most of them just do
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data entry, don't complete the returns and don't review the returns.
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Are people here going to be enrolled agents or even
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tax attorneys out there? So whyant you text in and
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asked what's the difference between an accountant and an EA
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thing you spoke of? Well, again a world agents are
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people that are specialized in tax, whether it's representation, tax planning,
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tax preparation. Enrolled agents are one hundred percent geared towards
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dealing with taxes. An accountant, most of them are going
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to if they haven't become a CPA, we'll do bookkeeping,
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We'll do some financial statements. Again, they're if they're doing
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a certified report, then they're going to be CPAs. But
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accountant generally just does bookkeeping, may work for a company,
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do receivables, payables, things like that. Some accountants jump out
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and get into preparing returns with an annual filing season
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program participant, or could just have their PTI in and
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work for somebody out there. So there's a lot of differences.
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And so when we talk about specializing in tax enrolled
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agents are going to be the people that you're going
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to want to look for that specialize in doing taxes.
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So another thing you want to do when you're looking
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for a prepare out there, check their preparer's history. You
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can check with the Better Business Bureau see if the
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prepare has a questionable history. Also check for any disciplinary actions,
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for the status of their license where they're enrolled agents,
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CPA attorney. For CPA's you can go to the State
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Board of Accountancy and check their status there. For attorneys,
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you can go check at the state Bar. For an
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enrolled agents, you can actually check with the IRS Office
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of Enrollment. EAS again have to maintain this license maintained,
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continue education. The same with as CPAs they're going to
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want to make sure they maintain their education and everything. Ronald,
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the question you have is how long is this wing
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for enrolled agents versus accounting. Well, accounting is going to
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be a degree that you're going to get in a university,
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so it could be four years. It could be five
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or six years if you go through to get your
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masters and get your CPA license an enrolled agent. Because
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we're very specialized in taxes, there is not any length
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of schooling that's involved, but most enrolled agents have a
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lot of work experience in the tax field. I can
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tell you many years ago when I got my Enrolled
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Agents license and I was a CPA also at the time,
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you know, I went and sat for this exam and
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there were many many people that have been in there
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taking this exam over and over and over again in
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order to pass it. It is not an easy exam
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to pass to become an enrolled agent. We'll go through
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a few more qualifications and what it takes to become
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an enrolled agent as soon as we come back from
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this break.
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We have only scratched the surface of today's show. Please
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Here's your host, Barry G. Fallon.
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Hey, welcome back. We were talking about enrolled agents and
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becoming an enrolled agent. And I like talking about becoming
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an enrolled agent because you know, when I looked at
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this many years ago and not only holding a CPA
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license but deciding to also be licensed enrolled agent, you
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know had to take a look at what it took
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to become an enrolled agent, and the first thing was
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having the experience in preparing taxes, but then going in
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and passing a three parts special enrollment examination. Back then
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it was on paper. Now it's on a computer system
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by Promedic, So you would have to pass that those
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three parts of the exam, and it is a very
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grilling exam because not only do you have to know
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pretty much everything about taxes. But you know, they go
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back and test on the previous year or two back,
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so you got to know a lot of the rules
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that applied for the previous couple of years when you're
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going in and taking that, including things like farm taxes,
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truckers taxes. You know, all these things are included. You know.
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The fun part is is like you know, if you
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if you are running a farm and you do you
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appreciate cows or things like that that people don't think
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about that you might need to know if they test that,
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and you don't know what they're going to actually test
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on any simple, any single exam. So once you've achieved
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those passing scores, then you've got to apply for enrollment
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through Forum twenty three, and then you get to go
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get fingerprinted and go through a full FBI background check,
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and they're going to review your tax transcripts. If you've
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fail to file timely or pay taxes, it can be
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grounds for denial of enrollment. And the other side would
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be you have you had past service and technical experience
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working for the IRS. Again, you would have to have
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knowledge of Circular two thirty, apply for enrollment and go
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through a background check. Those are the fun things that
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you get to do when you're applying to become an
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enrolled agent PAMs. Can a person go to a bookkeeping
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school instead of a college. Absolutely, If you're not looking
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to become a CPA a Certified Public accountant, you can
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actually go to some of the bookkeeping schools instead of
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going to a college and you can learn bookkeeping. Now,
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you're not going to be able to give a certified
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financial reports or anything, but you can do basic bookkeeping
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for clients out there or work for somebody else doing bookkeeping.
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You know, that is all a possibility for you to
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go through and do for jumping out and doing bookkeeping.
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Dustin asked, doesn't enrolled agent have to be an accountant
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or is a different course of study? Again? Enrolled agent,
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Basically you don't have to go to college and study anything.
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What you need to know is everything inside and out
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about taxes, planning, tax representation, the ethical requirements of being
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an enrold agent. That's what you're going to get tested on.
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And a lot of times it's years of experience and
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working in the tax field that you go through and do.
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And yes, Alex, thanks for this question. Did I say
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FBI check? Absolutely? They want to make sure that you
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don't have a criminal background. Remember this is US Department
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of Treasury that is issuing this license to people like
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myself that are enrolled agents. So they want to know
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that a, you haven't committed any crimes, especially felonies. I'm
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sure mister meanors and stuff like that doesn't really matter,
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but you know, they want to make sure that you've
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got a good background because you are working with clients
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and preparing tax returns for clients, you know, So those
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are the kind of things that happen when you're becoming